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Re: Which DBs needing a backup?

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So my question....at the moment we only have the saptempdb on SSD-devices, as we got the information this makes sense and it does not bring an improvement to put also data devices on SSD.

 

But if I got you right, the reading/writting is also done directly on data devices (of <sid>db) and so it would make sense to put them also on SSD, right?

 

I will check the online documentation of sybase again, however you know, it is very often now available...I think yesterday the complete day

 

Kind regards and thank you very much for your great help


Re: how to add a datafile and log segments in sybase ASE.

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Hi Kiran,

 

Thanks for your help, i am able to add log segments,

but it gave me some warning, can you please explain this to me?

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Regards,

Faheem.

Re: how to add a datafile and log segments in sybase ASE.

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Faheem,

 

Thresholds are defined to take its action at already defined levels (ie, number of free page on a segment - log/device).  When you increase a segment's size (eg, extend the database log => increase the size of the logsegmentsegment), the previous threshold levels (number of free pages) are maintained.

 

The warning is simply stating that if any of your previous threshold levels are within 128 pages of the log's new last chance threshold (LCT; automatically redefined when the logsegment segment is increased) then said thresholds will (effectively) be marked as inactive.

 

If you have thresholds defined on your databases's log (ie, thresholds defined on logsegment segment) then you'll likely want to re-evaluate said thresholds to determine if you wish to modify said thresholds.  If you don't have any thresholds on your logsegment segment, or you do have thresholds but none of them are within 128 pages of the new LCT, then you can safely ignore this warning.

 

Regards

Kiran K Adharapuram

Re: Please help to explain me in detail about SAP Sybase ASE architecture

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Hi Kiran/Nicolaas,

 

I will be very much great if you guys elucidate the concepts in a Lehman terminology. As,I am in learning stage, trying to understand the basic concepts first in an easy way. I found the links are a bit higher and profound. Please help me over this.

 

Regards,

Dilip Voora.

Re: Please help to explain me in detail about SAP Sybase ASE architecture

Re: Ending with an error while using dump database option while scheduling recurring backups at SAP level

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Hi Amarnath,

 

Please make sure that you implemented the latest correction collection note for DBACOCKPIT:

1558958 SYB: DBA Cockpit Correction Collection SAP Basis 7.02 / 7.30

1619967 SYB: DBA Cockpit Correction Collection SAP Basis 7.31

1882376 SYB: DBA Cockpit Correction Collection SAP Basis 7.40

 

If the issue doesn't solve after implementing the correction collection note, Please also implement the following note.

         2003156 - DBA Cockpit: Job error when scheduling a job for a specific time

 

~Regards Gaurav Jowhry

Re: Please help to explain me in detail about SAP Sybase ASE architecture

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Hi Dilip,

 

Any RDBMS contains three important components

 

1. Storage..think about disk or your database or files (A file can be an image or video or a pdf etc.,)

2. Memory.. Allocated RAM to your RDBMS..think about fast response times. more memory = faster response times.

Note: Disks IOs are slower when compared to Memory IOs

3. Some processes running in the background...These are mandatory for your server to run and are called as ASE internal threads (known as Background processes in Oracle)

 

Others include..executable files like ASE RUNserver file, Errorlog file, Interface file and Configuration file.

 

Technically..

 

1. Your storage in Sybase is Databases;System databases (master, model, tempdb, sybsystemprocs, sybmgmtdb and saptools and saptempdb for SAP Applications) and User databases

 

2. Shared Memory is the technical term we use in ASE to indicate your memory which again is divided into 3 major components

  • ProcedureCache: This is the place where compiled programs (called stored procedures for faster response times) are stored along with SQL statements abstract plans (in statementcache) to reduce the query optimization time
  • Datacache: This is the place where the user (client process) gets his requested data actually from (LogicalIO). If the requested data is not found in data cache, ASE fetches it from Disks (This is called PhysicalIO and is much slower than logicalIO)
  • Logcache: I would say the bread and butter for any Sybase DBA. It stores the information about the changes made to the user data. Known as Transaction log or syslogs (actually a table). This can be viewed as a big REDO log and UNDO segment combined in Oracle. Purpose of having Log cache is RECOVERY.

 

About ASE Architecture: ASE's threaded kernal uses its ownthreadingmodel rather than depending on Operating system.

i.e., Instead of relying on the operating system (Unlike Oracle which creates a UNIX processes for every background process) to schedule operation on a CPU or multiple CPUs, ASE takes this responsibility for itself and handles scheduling and dispatching of user threads. This makes SAP SYBASE different from other RDBMS.

 

More details.. I will type when I find free time.

 

Note:This is NOT complete or exact but should serve your purpose "I will be very much great if you guys elucidate the concepts in a Lehman terminology. As,I am in learning stage, trying to understand the basic concepts first in an easy way ".

 

Dear Experts, You can correct me if my understandings are wrong.

 

HTH

Rajesh

Re: Please help to explain me in detail about SAP Sybase ASE architecture

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Hi Rajesh,

 

Thanks for making me understand in such a good way by using examples .Will be anticipating for your response over the remaining.

 

Regards,

Dilip Voora.


Where can I get ASE server online for practise??

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Hi Experts,

 

Please help to provide me the links where in which I can practice online.

 

Regards,

Dilip Voora.

Re: Where can I get ASE server online for practise??

Re: Where can I get ASE server online for practise??

Re: Where can I get ASE server online for practise??

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Hello Rob and Mark,

 

Thanks for the response. Can you please suggest me the OS(please share the link ) on which I can install either of them?

 

Regards,

Dilip Voora.

ERP 6.0 & SAP SYBASE ASE 16 running

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Hi @ll,

we have a system SAP ERP 6.0 (non UC) EHP 0 (without) based on NW 7.0 running on ORACLE. We want to migrate to SAP SYBASE ASE 16 with an UNICODE migration - which is necessary. In the SAP Product Availability Matrix (PAM) there is an information you can run ERP 6.0 EHP 0 on SAP ASE  with kernel 7.22.

 

https://apps.support.sap.com/sap/support/pam?hash=pvnr%3D01200615320900001296%26pt%3Dt%257CPLTFRM%26ainstnr%3D0120061532…

 

The problem is - in the note 1554717 there is the info that you can run SAP ASE starting with ERP 6.0 EHP5! Which information is correct? Can i run ERP 6.0 with ASE 16 like in the PAM? How can i install it? The installation tools for ASE are missing for ERP 6.0 EHP 0. Otherwise i have to run an EHP implementation first.

 

Can anybody give me a hint?

Thank's a lot

Jochen

Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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Hi Dwayne ,

  

      can u explain in details plz

 

  Regards

  Ashish C

Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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I'd suggest just try to restart the ASE server without -m (single mode). -m is mostly for restoring the master device and master DB. /Annie


Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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Ashish,

 

Are you ok with DB Restart, then the single user mode is best preferred method as said by Dwayne and Annie

 

Regards

Kiran K Adharapuram

Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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Hi Ashish,

 

The method puts the server in single user mode, which means it will only allow sa/dba to connect to the server, no other user can connect to the specified server during the session or you can say during load operation.

 

After the accomplishment of the load activity you should remove the -m parameter from the RUN_SERVER file OR remove -m parameter from the startup statement, like

 

% startserver -f RUN_SERVER_FILE

 

HTH

 

Regards

Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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just a correction. I didn't say single user mode - Dwayne said. (check my previous message)

I've said just a DB restart (could be some phantom processes out there). But make sure that no one else is logged on after the restart.

 

And If there are open transactions a DB shutdown can take a while.

/Annie

Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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Annie,

 

You are right

I am sorry for wrong consolidation.

Both are correct, you need to restart and restore or restart and single user more and restore

Let use know if this solved your issue.

 

Regards

Kiran K Adharapuram

Re: Database in use. A user with system administrator (SA) role must have exclusive use of database to run load

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Hi Kiran & Annie Marcaryan,

 

I have a question originated from this discussion that,

 

1) Why we do DBCC dbtable(<dbid>) or what is the need of it ??

2) How do we read or what we will check in the output generated by the above statement ??

 

Just to grow my knowledge base...

 

Please, don't precise, just explain it...!!!

 

Regards

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